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UNFFwildcard (October 11, 2008 at 7:51 pm)
What's interesting too is that if you look outside the US there's hardly this polarity over religion. By percentage of Christians, the evolution/ID issue seems to be pretty localized within the US as compared to other countries. I wonder if there's something political that's unique to the US that is catylizing this whole thing.
AnarcisticJoy (October 11, 2008 at 6:32 pm)
I just do it when I'm bored but for me only a few days so far. It's kind of amusing, as i've never met someone so unmoving and contradictory before. I never thought they were just an american stereotype that didn't actually exist.
akan65 (October 11, 2008 at 6:28 pm)
Those retroviruses could be anything maybe even something to help fight diseases.
UNFFwildcard (October 11, 2008 at 4:40 pm)
How long have you guys been arguing with HTBK? 6 months now?
UNFFwildcard (October 11, 2008 at 4:35 pm)
The questions were directed towards HTBK. The only thing I'm trying to debunk is HTBK's literal interpretation of biblical text.
Erech01 (October 11, 2008 at 3:01 pm)
'Therefore, the universe is dying'
wrong, the universe is NOT alive it cannot therefore die.
'It is not eternal'
tell that to the first law of thermodynamics.
'Naturalism cannot do '
natralism is somthing which science (REAL scence) builds itself around, naturalism didnt create the universe, GRAVITy did, along with some other physical processes such as fussion.
Erech01 (October 11, 2008 at 2:58 pm)
'the earths magnetic field & the speed of light decaying, harmful cosmic radiation destroying material such as the scuff deep lunar dust for example. '
yes, materials are destoryed, not atoms, different laws apply to atoms, its one of the many things which annoy physicists to this day, atoms themselves seem to have their own laws;)
and the speed of light is not decayng, its a universal constant unaffected by anything else, thats why physicists represent it as 'c' for constant
Erech01 (October 11, 2008 at 2:55 pm)
'Darwin made no such prediction.'
yes he did
'are several fossils out of order'
no their isnt.
'The Cambrian Explosion has 100 phyla without transitional forms to bacteria below'
bacteria CANNOT fossilize, to fossilize you need somthing hard which will last long enough to be replaced by minerals, like bones.
Wonko101 (October 11, 2008 at 1:38 pm)
Evolution tells us that creatures come from other creatures with features of the parent creature but with changes to suit the enviroment. This is exactly what occured in the Cambrian explosion and other "explosions" such as the Avalon explosion. This is exactly what is found in the fossil record. Fossils of creatures that share features of the previous but with features that the earlier fossils do not have.
Wonko101 (October 11, 2008 at 1:34 pm)
Regarding "fossils out of order":It is entirely possible for the rock around a fossil to be eroded, and the fossil to then be buried in younger sediment. This is common enough that real geologists have a technical term for such "re-fossils"; that term is 'reworked'. This is not a catch-all excuse, as creationists will suspect immediately, since there are clues determining whether a fossil is reworked. |