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pardollada (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
real people, not monkeys like chavez
icofbaby1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Ok, I really cannot debate what happens in the country. ALl I get is what I hear on the news and my own research which is mainly papers agreeing or disagreeing with Chavez policies. I am aware that my info could be bias or lies. I do know that it takes time to unite everyone and provide for everyone in VZ. So what do you propose? THe current system not working. Is there hope for a better world?
TuttiOfruti (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
93% of the crime cases get unsolved and the delinquents unpunished, and the new curiculun that was rejected by the people on december yet they isist... chavez may say its a lie but we venezuelans are not blind and we know the truth cuz we live the truth every single day. Of course he whants to make everyone equal, but that wont apply for the politic figures cuz they want to be the only rich and powerful .... while the people just drowns in a pool of political, economic and social caos
TuttiOfruti (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
listen i really dont care if we have a socialist or capitalist life, as long as venezuelans can be free, secure and of course equal... you are talikng about the realionships between venezuela and other countries and chavez views on capitalism. im talking about venezuelans life quality and stuff that happends inside the country... we are talking about completely diferent isues, what i say is that life quality in venezuela its way much worse than before, everything its more expencive
icofbaby1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I'll tell you what kind of society capitist produce. Millions with bad health, no health care, millions uninsured, indifferent to war, misinformed, victums to propoganda, afraid of the hidden powers, and millions uneducated. I see Chavez trying to unite south America like Europe united to be as strong as USA. I think a world with 5 big powers is better than having ONE dictatorship. A world where Africa and all countries have the same voice as One. That is equality.
icofbaby1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
By definition, governments should be there for the people, therefore making them socialist if they put the walefare of all people over the wealth of a few. IN the USA even government hospitals are just for profit. Insurance is just for profit. Tax breaks is just for profit. War is just for profit. Humanitarian aid is just for profit. TV and the news is just for profit. THE basic provided needs of humans are for pofit. What kind of people you think this will produce?
icofbaby1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
What do you mean 7 out of 10 teachers rejected? He is socializing elementry and middle school? You mean like the States or something else? You mean it will be government institutions? So do the poor in Venezuela prefer to count on the rich capitalist then a socialist government? Confusing to me. Most unbalanced societies are run by rich capitalist. Are the poor informed on these ideas and different concepts? Maybe I am failing to understand a key element of the venezualain mind.
TuttiOfruti (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
well about the referendum, you know hes basically doing it again? .. hes doing anopther referendum to impart socialist program on primary and middle school? with 7 out of 10 teachers regected, and the other one is for reelecting himself undefinetly... both laws were rejected by the people on december.... of course Im glad that he unmask the US but, the disrespec he shows for his people is much worse. i know really poor people who are not willing to sell himself to the government though..
icofbaby1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
You make a good point and I see you are a smart man. He could be a fake. A few insults isn't quite a revolution is it? How militant is he really? Yes, he was hoping to win the referendum, and it is possible that his ego is involved and his way is not the best, but we can see also that the traditional way also doesn't work. Today's system allows to much economic inbalance and international injustice. SO maybe I just like Chavez because at least talks the dream. It is the idea I love perhaps.
TuttiOfruti (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
chavez, is not helping the poor HE IS USING THEM, for votes, did you heard what he said after he lost the referendum on december, it was the people choise and he said it was "shit", the prices on food are super high, so all that u know is that he is not a USA puppet, and... how do you know? all he does is just a bit of insulting other countries... yet those planes that bomb irak run on venezuelan oil, the prises of the food go up. while chavez dresses in armani... |
